God Can Speak Without the HA (Gasp!)

One of the great things about the Honor Academy, according to Dave Hasz, is that you will be much more mature before you go to college and you will have direction for your life. Because of this, you won’t have to change majors all the time and waste your time in college.

I find this really funny, because its the exact opposite of what happened to me. When I was a junior in highschool, I had a pretty good idea of what I wanted to major in and the career I wanted to have. But when I went to the HA, I was convinced by the worldchanger rhetoric that I was destined to be a tentmaking missionary in a closed country. So, of course, I went to college and majored in something that would make that happen – namely computer science. I HATED it. I didn’t even finish the first class without dropping it. Then I considered international business (a popular choice for interns). That didn’t work either. Finally, it dawned on me to return to my original passion. The one I had before I even went to the Honor Academy.

So, I switched schools, lost credit hours I had already taken at my first school, and ended up in the exact same place I would have been without the internship. I finished that degree program and ended up in the career I always wanted. (And it has nothing to do with being a tentmaker in a closed country.)

Another inherent problem with his statement is the idea that switching majors is a bad or immature thing. Trying out different things to find out what you like is a normal part of the growth process and is not inherently bad in itself. Prayer and introspection are not necessarily substitutes for actually examining a career path or learning track up close.

Dave often speaks in sweeping generalizations and false dichotomies that just aren’t true.

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  1. I never attended the Honor Academy. I wanted to but my parents pushed for an education that would count in the real world (praise the Lord). And so, I went straight to University after high school. Amazingly, I never switched majors and graduated right on schedule with first class standing.

    Guess Dave forgot to mention it IS possible to go to college straight out of high school, know what you want to do and NOT change majors or waste time.

    Choices are rarely "either or" as TM would have them seem.

  2. RA —

    I don't understand this at all, but it's a common problem among visionary leaders (for lack of a better term). The last time I had to deal with a preacher apparently saying whatever popped into his head while in the pulpit, my best guess was that being in the pulpit can create a kind of "fog of war" or something, and the speaker can end up in some kind of altered mental state, panic state, or what have you, where they're accustomed to producing a reaction in the sea of faces before them and they depend on these nonverbal cues to the point where they'll say almost anything to get a particular reaction, and the truth of what they're saying is less important than the response they get for saying it.

    This sort of expectation is the only explanation I can find for speakers who use hand gestures, stressed words, etc. while speaking in front of a crowd that they would never use in real life, too.

  3. It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel (Proverbs 20:3).

    A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control (Proverbs 29:11).

    And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful (2 Timothy 2:24).

  4. "And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful"

    I'll second that. The previous anonymous poster is choosing specific scriptures to get the participants in this blog to feel bad about recovering from abuse. I feel that for the most part the participants in this blog are kind and not quarreling. If we were unkind things would be a LOT worse than they are now. The only poster that is resentful is the previous anonymous poster.

  5. Nunquam Honorablus | January 2, 2010 at 8:12 pm | Reply

    I'll say. By using Scripture that advises against arguing, you're saying "lol don't argue guys".
    But, you're going to post this on like five different posts without reading them, and you are expecting nobody to correct your logic? Are you not doing the exact same thing- acting out on your anger toward this blog and posting Scripture so your arguing sounds holier? Seriously?

    I truly wish that people would read what RA has to say before they go accusing him of facilitating drama and angst. Cause that's not what this is about.

  6. MDSF – interesting theory! and kind of funny, too.

  7. Yeah to MDSF. I think that is really on. It's hard to say (even as an ex-alumni who has told herself over and over and over and over and over and over again that Dave Hasz has no idea what he's talking about) that Mr. Hasz is that off. But he really is.
    I remember sitting in a Dave Hasz class feeling rejected, belittled, confused or I would just feel like something wasn't right but I would ignore it.
    I like how you said it, no one would act like that in real life. Except interns. Interns are the only ones who act like that in real life. then a year or two after the internship they realize, no one acts like that. Then they just feel dumb for a few months, then they get over it and start really living life.
    The grieving process of leaving T.M was the hardest thing I'd had to do in my life. (I'm sure there will be harder, a while back, thanks to this blog, when I finally started to see that it was mostly all lie, I was a wreck, every single day. for months…)

  8. oh. And I just want to testify, I totally believed this mentality. I definitely thought that I would not be have been able to hear God as well had I not gone to the H.A.

  9. Anonymous – I'd love for you to write a post about your recovery experience so far, if you are interested. I think it help smooth out the road for others…email me.

  10. I am a senior in high school and for the past few months I have wanted to attend HA so badly it almost hurt. It seemed as though God were tugging me in that direction and after attending ATF in Chicago about a month ago, this pull was solidified.

    I found your blog today and I don't know what to say.

    Perhaps thank you. I'm the kind of person most would describe as a "soft heart" and all of your personal testimonies have saved me from what could have quite possibly destroyed my life. My heart goes out to those of you who have gone through, and are going through, this experience.

    I suppose I'm also grateful. Thank you for "exposing", shall I daresay, the true light of HA. It's an interesting feeling–coming to discover that the one thing that seems the most right has suddenly become the most misguided direction for my life.

    Again, thank you for sharing your stories. I don't know what I would have done without finding you blog.

  11. Thank you for sharing that. I'm so glad you our experiences have helped you to avoid the pain we went thru. Blessings.

  12. I think of it this way. God places certain desires in your heart, and He will use those desires for Him.
    I, for instance, DO want to be a missionary in a foreign country. But God did give me a knack for foreign languages and a teachers background, and love for writing. He made it all work together.
    God will work everything together for you. As my dad said, "God doesn't make generalizations, He is very individualistic."

    Just make sure you continue to use it for God. Don't let false prophets get you down!

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