Classics: Dangerous Leadership

Note from RA: During this holiday week, I’ll be re-posting some blog classics. Enjoy and Happy Thanksgiving!

In the Honor Academy, you are taught to give absolute submission and obedience to your leaders there. You are told that the leadership are basically God’s representative to you. To disobey them is to disobey God. They actively promote the idea that you, as an intern, should submit to them in every way and take their judgments for you and about you as the words of God. Of course, they encourage you to pray and seek God on your own, but usually only when that conforms to the context they have laid out for you.

Funny thing is that they only take this stance when it benefits them. After all, it can be very convenient to set yourself up as God in this way. When you play that card, nobody can question you.

This leads to many problems, but perhaps the most serious situation occurs when an intern is dimissed from the Honor Academy. After weeks or months of being told to believe that the words of Dave Hasz are the words of God to you, being kicked out can easily feel as if God is abandoning you. The leadership who represents God to you is saying that you are not good enough, that you do not deserve mercy – and so by extension it feels that God Himself is saying those things to you.

When pressured, Dave Hasz tries to separate his opinion from God’s and say that although He is kicking people out, it does not mean God is rejecting them. But this does not square with the commonplace teaching at the HA that if you do not finish your internship, you will fail in life, you will fail in marriage, God will not bless you, you will not reach your leadership potential, etc. Essentially, they preach that if you do not finish the internship, a curse will be upon you. Although they never go so far as to actually say that you lose your salvation if you are kicked out, it is implied.

You can’t have it both ways, gentleman. You can’t insist on blind obedience to your leadership in the name of God and then expect people to do a head-spinning reversal and discern between your opinion and God’s as you are kicking them out.

It’s just not possible.

459 Comments on "Classics: Dangerous Leadership"

  1. Gah!!! Great post!!!!

    "After all, the Honor Academy never says that you lose your salvation if you are kicked out or that God looks down on you."

    I'm actually pretty sure that Dave does go so far as to say God would look down on you for breaking your commitment but can't confirm it. I don't think I ever heard the message that God loves us *anyways,* at the H.A. Dave doesn't preach it.
    Thanks R.A. for these post. There is so much… Truth/love in them. These are awesome, I think…

  2. Yea sorry RA I remember that he said that God would deny me blessings in my future for not completing the program. I think that's pretty much the equivalent of God looking down on me. That said I do think that such talk from him causes self fulfilling prophesy in many of us. I mean if a person that was billed as having an amazing relationship with God tells you that your relationship with God will suffer for not finishing so many people then see it happen because they think that Dave must be right!

    To anyone out there feeling like this DAVE IS SO WRONG! You lost nothing from God by choosing to leave.

  3. You know what – you are right! I wrote this many, many months ago before I heard Dave say those things. I will correct the post right now.

  4. One of the craziest things I heard at the cult was, "God knew what the Honor Academy was all about and you signed the commitment. God would want you to be a woman/man of honor and follow through on your commitments. God knew before you were here exactly what would be asked of you this year and HE would want you to honor your commitments, not break them."

    I must have heard those words a MILLION times while I was there from staff and interns. This is one of the biggest cult tools they use to manipulate interns. If you do not keep your commitment then you are a liar and the Bible is very clear about what happens to liars. This is one of the easiest tactics they use to control interns.

  5. "In the Honor Academy, you are taught to give absolute submission and obedience to your leaders there. You are told that the leadership are basically God's representative to you. To disobey them is to disobey God. They actively promote the idea that you, as an intern, should submit to them in every way and take their judgments for you and about you as the words of God. Of course, they encourage you to pray and seek God on your own, but usually only when that conforms to the context they have laid out for you."

    Gosh this is so reminiscent of what I went through in Master's Commission, it's ridiculous. Thank for your speaking up and not being silent. It helps me so much to know I'm not alone and I'm not crazy.

  6. Wow! Blind submission is so dangerous. Even the people during biblical times searched the scriptures to see if these things were so. They had the disciples who walked with Jesus leading them and they still challenged leadership. When I stand before Christ no one will be there but me so I have the right to challenge every word presented to me. I wish I caught that revelation when I was an intern (January Class of 2001).

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